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Post by overlord on Jul 11, 2014 14:30:37 GMT 8
Each one of us has a plan and it will usually start with either of the two.
Let's talk about whether you plan to bug-in or bug-out.
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Post by remnantprep on Jul 15, 2014 14:17:24 GMT 8
Bug in for me! Will only leave if absolutely needed as I have a small child.
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Post by dannyboyds on Jul 15, 2014 16:49:45 GMT 8
I'll react to the situation as it occurs, too many people are adamant they will do only one thing no matter the situation. I would prefer to Bug in at my home, secondary location to bug in is my mothers which would actually be more ideal than my home and lastly if all else fails or is likely to I can be found wandering the Toolangi state forest up by Kinglake as it's close and familiar.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 15, 2014 18:05:31 GMT 8
Plan A - Bug In. Plan B - Bug Out.
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Post by myrrph on Jul 15, 2014 18:24:29 GMT 8
LoL Jay.
Thats like saying, what would you wanna for dinner? Chicken or Beef?
Both!
HAHA
I will likely Bug In. I have enough food for a couple of months. Can fish for protein and know where the local community gardens are.
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Post by overlord on Jul 17, 2014 10:58:06 GMT 8
My own philosophy is to Bug in initially to be able to assess the situation. If things are too hairy outside, then I will stay inside until such time that the coast is clear or I really have to bug out. Assess, Assess, Assess... that is what I always say... and hope I got the spelling right...
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Post by strop2 on Jul 29, 2014 20:25:20 GMT 8
My Main Residence is 10 min out of Vinh Long City (where I live 90% of the time currently), it is approx. 3 hrs by road and a day by slow boat SW of Saigon. As soon as I am made aware of a critical situation - I would make haste to return there ASAP. I always have hundreds of KG of rice on hand and boosting security at my storage locations would be first priority followed by planting additional foods and recommence chicken farming.
Most people in the Mekong are subsistence farmers (homesteaders) and there is a lot of food around. However, I can move 1 hr by car/motorbike and 2 hrs by boat to a another location on major canal on the river which has numerous food crops growing. Bugging Out completely can be achieved by heading north into the central highlands or using my boat or nearby larger rice boats to move to a more isolated location.
The situation will dictate the Course of Action whether to Bug In or to Bug Out and by which method of transportation to take - the vehicle is then my Centre of Gravity and what might affect that eg intact roads, open waterways, enough fuel, most serviceable vehicle, can I take everything and everyone, enough time to move out on a safe secure route, what is everyone else doing etc.
Timing is critical - Wargame your plan and use Decision Points (DP) to work out Time and Space eg Threat is 6 hrs away (could be any given time in your Wargame) what are you doing. Your DP, initiates an action.
This is where a Group Get Together comes in handy and you Wargame plans.
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Post by overlord on Aug 1, 2014 10:04:22 GMT 8
Having too many people in one location and not enough vehicles to evacuate can be a logistical nightmare.
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Post by strop2 on Aug 1, 2014 13:09:55 GMT 8
Having too many people in one location and not enough vehicles to evacuate can be a logistical nightmare. I have planned to evac 20 people with the resources I have. When you wargame each Threat, you will find people have different ideas, different priorities, are at different stages in prepping. Your plan must suit you/your individual family. However, you will find that people will come up with some great ideas.
Decision making is conducted prior to a Threat not just before or during as Overlord has rightly mentioned.
What do you do with people (who could be family) trying to impose upon you during SHTF - impacting on your resources eg water, food and transportation? This needs to be discussed during Wargaming. Wargaming is part of your developing plan.
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Post by myrrph on Aug 1, 2014 14:24:51 GMT 8
i intend to evac none but bug-in plans for 2 homes 50m apart. one of the 6th floor of an apartment (3pax) and one on the 9th floor of an apartment (2pax)
i'm quite worried about the whole Ebola thing thats happeneing.
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Post by overlord on Aug 4, 2014 10:21:12 GMT 8
So true, the Ebola incident is growing in size and even the WHO is concerned that it is growing faster than they can control it.
Maybe that's the reason the US decided to bring the two Americans back so they can be studied in the CDC.
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Post by strop2 on Nov 19, 2014 19:19:17 GMT 8
I'm interested to hear what the Trigger to Bug In or Bug Out might be eg Ebola.
Another question I have is for anyone Bugging Out by Car - what Trigger enacts your 'Go Now' Decision Point? This is critical due to road use or limited road use and the possibility that everyone would head to the same location eg high ground. You only need one vehicle breakdown, one road closure ......
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Post by overlord on Nov 20, 2014 11:41:23 GMT 8
In my case, once the 2 major "Ebola Containment" hospitals in Metro Manila are going to hit max capacity is when I will bug out and head to the farm.
Since we have multiple routes to the farm, we can take these alternates or I can contact the others and head out to the BOL up North managed by Reno if he is in town.
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Post by myrrph on Nov 20, 2014 13:47:26 GMT 8
i'm bugging in so unless we're getting bombed, i'm staying put!
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